Thursday, April 29, 2010

Supreme Court In Video Games

Darren Pearce
I'm unsure of it at the moment.
Yesterday at 5:26am ·
John Kaufmann
John Kaufmann
Leave it to the parents, but at the sametime I think the parents need to be a little more informed. I have seen 10 years olds playing GTA and trust me, I hate using GTA as an example.
Yesterday at 5:35am ·
Darren Pearce
Darren Pearce
I think GTA has definitely been run into the ground in that respect, compared to something like Saints Row (1,2) which have far more immediate violent scenes. Yet I think it's the 'done thing' thanks to Jack Thompson's crusade to pick GTA out of the bunch.

I'm curious to see how Red Dead Redemption fairs in terms of the violent games are bad crowd...See More
Yesterday at 5:41am ·
John Kaufmann
John Kaufmann
The Saint Rows game are so over the top that it's cartoonish so that's why it has escape the lynch mob and that's what Ed Boon and John Tobias had to do with Mortal Kombat 3, just look at that game next to Mortal Kombat 2 and it's night and day far as violence goes.
Yesterday at 6:03am ·
Darren Pearce
Darren Pearce
Yeah, I remember that whole thing with MK 2 and 3.
Yesterday at 6:04am ·
Michael Mennies
Michael Mennies
With regards to violence and media, there is no doubt in my mind that violence in the media makes sectors of our society more aggressive. If media did not have this type of influence advertising wouldn't work. Of course parents are the last line of defense, but they can use help just as they are given with things like cigarettes and booze which are...See More
Yesterday at 6:31am ·
Jordan Itkowitz
Jordan Itkowitz
as people who have grown up w/ games grow up and have their own kids this issue will eventually go away but for now it could have been avoidable if the ESRB had simply used the same symbols that all parents know from movies - G, PG, PG-13 and R.
Yesterday at 6:39am ·
Flint Dille
Flint Dille
Its interesting. I have no real opinion on this one, yet. I do have a 1st amendment issue with Michael. So what if violent games cause violence in some individuals. Does that mean we take them away from everybody? Are we supposed to treat every consumer as a Charles Manson in the making even though a very small percentage of them go out and do ...See More
Yesterday at 8:43am ·
Michael Mennies
Michael Mennies
Flint, I totally agree with you that outlawing is not the answer, but what I am suggesting is that maybe violent games should be treated like a controlled substance like cigarettes. Really, I don't know the answer, but I really wish that all the creative people who make games would turn their energies towards making less games that are centered around violence.
Yesterday at 9:02am ·
Flint Dille
Flint Dille
That is ignoring the more compelling argument that violent games have a cathartic effect and that testosterone-and angst filled males vent their spleen on virtual enemies and not physical ones. Frankly, I think there's more to support that (just from common sense) than the argument that the games cause violence.
Yesterday at 9:04am ·
Michael Mennies
Michael Mennies
Flint, I don't buy that argument. If this were the case, violence would be going down in our society since the introduction of violent video games, movies, television, etc... Are you telling me there are less bar fights now, and less gang related beatings, thanks to the introduction of these productions, or at least no increase at all?

What I ...See More
Yesterday at 9:17am ·
Flint Dille
Flint Dille
I don't know where you are, but the Crime Rate in L.A. -- I think in California is at '50's levels. I've never seen a bar fight (then again, I don't go to bars), I've never heard of a fight at either of my kid's schools. Yeah. I think it is going down.

Honest. I can't correlate this to video games, nor will I try, but as to your major premise, yeah, I think violence is way down.
Yesterday at 10:17am ·
Terrence C Briggs
Terrence C Briggs
I have been playing video games every month since 1982, when dad brought home the Atari VCS with Combat and River Raid. I am a 98-ounce weakling, bordering on pacifism, despite playing murder sims and Street Fighter 2 upgrades regularly. I tire of outsiders telling hardcores like me how I play, why I play, what happens to me when I play, and why I continue to play. Do *NOT* bring weak stuff into my digital dojo. Bring truth, not fear.
Yesterday at 10:37am ·
Terrence C Briggs
Terrence C Briggs
Having said that, are age-related sales restrictions on games any different from age-related sales restrictions on movie tickets, music, or stage performances?
Yesterday at 10:38am ·
Flint Dille
Flint Dille
The parent in me wants the games clearly labeled with a rating (going to movie ratings isn't a bad idea at all) with an explanation for the rating. Frank always has a good reason why he thinks ratings chill comics, and every time he explains it to me, I agree with him and then I forget it 10 minutes later.
Yesterday at 10:41am ·
Terrence C Briggs
Terrence C Briggs
Agreed on the ratings. As a 5-year-old the games I played were abstract, the graphics were so awful. I doubt I would let my hypothetical 5-year-old play my current favorite "murder sims".
Yesterday at 10:43am ·
Christopher Kent
Christopher Kent
I play video games. And I'm not trying to argue anything here, but just for the sake of volenteering information, the crime rate where I live is at it's all-time worst. And we've noticed that if my 6 year old son plays Halo, he throws more tantrums, etc, than when we make him play other games (like Guitar Hero).
Yesterday at 10:55am ·
Adam Moore
Adam Moore
Fascinating conversation for a Wednesday. Great reading. Gotta say movie-style ratings are the way to go. Let consumers know who the game is intended for, then let us make the ultimate decision.
Yesterday at 11:07am ·
Michael Mennies
Michael Mennies
Movie style rating at a minimum is a must. It would be nice if the game platforms themselves had parent controls (maybe they do...?) that would allow them to decide what kinds of games could be played on that device like web site filtering. So, for example, a Nintendo or X-Box could be set up to not play any game rated above PG-13.

I don't want to...See More
Yesterday at 11:21am ·
Michael L. Stribling
Michael L. Stribling
Ratings for sure...but if you want a great perspective, read the book "Killing Monsters"
http://www.amazon.com/Killing-Monsters-Children-Make-Believe-Violence/dp/0465036953
Yesterday at 11:29am ·
Michael Mennies
Michael Mennies
OK, I take it all back. I'm buying Grand Theft Auto for my 8 year old today! Unless of course you can help me find games that are more graphic.
Yesterday at 11:35am ·
Michael L. Stribling
Michael L. Stribling
that's funny.
Yesterday at 11:41am ·
Sanford S. Williams
Yesterday at 11:58am ·
Terrence C Briggs
Terrence C Briggs
I read Killing Monsters (written by Sky Surfer Strike Force creator Gerard Jones). It's okay, but it's half of a decent argument. The hardcore gamers are a better source of material here, though. Heck, read Tom Chick and Gamerdad some time. I can provide my own perspective, if needed.
10 hours ago ·
Sherri Stoner
Sherri Stoner
I remember when folks thought heavy metal led to violence - maybe they still do. I think the ratings systems on games is enough - that and parents just have to set limits and keep an eye on their kids. There are so many warning signs for abnormally violent behavior... if violent video games can push a kid over the edge, I have to wonder why no one noticed that this kid was NEAR the edge.
7 hours ago ·

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