Dan Vining
Dan Vining I didn't read all the comments but I'd sure disagree on universities. Please, don't let us convert to on-line "education" as part of our continuing obeisance to facts and formulas. Real education is wonderfully inefficient. Takes years. And beers and fears, in my case.
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Mon at 1:07pm ·
Janet Batchler
Universities? So everyone learns everything they need to know, picks up all the skills they need on the internet? All I can say is, that sure wouldn't work for my students....
And getting rid of libraries works for the well-off, but is incredibly short-sighted in the long run.
The IRS? Yeah. I'll go for that.
And getting rid of libraries works for the well-off, but is incredibly short-sighted in the long run.
The IRS? Yeah. I'll go for that.
Mon at 1:11pm ·
Jamie Calvetti
File cabinets
Mon at 1:27pm ·
Marshall Nystrom
I don't know. Is it the internet or is it the cost of education at the universities?
Mon at 1:30pm ·
Milosz Feigin
income tax is idiotic....www.fairtax.org....any leader who believes that problems can be solved by raising taxes is an idiot......
Mon at 1:46pm ·
Christopher Kent
I'd like to be rid of Universities. My college experience was basically me having to PAY to put up with arrogance and elitism on a daily basis. Some sort of inexpensive certification to show you have the knowledge, would be awesome.
I know so many bright people who couldn't afford college, or they had kids and couldn't do it, or something. And I know alot of guys with absolutley no brains whatsoever who's wealthy parents put them through school, and now they have some no effort, high-paying job because of whatever degree fell into their lap.
And the system will repeat itself. Rich morons paying their kids tuition, and smart parents struggling to make ends meet, who won't afford their kids education. Absolutely ridiculous....See More
I know so many bright people who couldn't afford college, or they had kids and couldn't do it, or something. And I know alot of guys with absolutley no brains whatsoever who's wealthy parents put them through school, and now they have some no effort, high-paying job because of whatever degree fell into their lap.
And the system will repeat itself. Rich morons paying their kids tuition, and smart parents struggling to make ends meet, who won't afford their kids education. Absolutely ridiculous....See More
Mon at 2:39pm ·
Milosz Feigin
Christopher its also all about what u study....an accounting degree has real world use....a degree in sociology,,,,well frankly only an idiot would spend money on something like that..a college degree is much like a trade in the old days....it should be practical and good for something...if one chooses to waste four years studying psychology, then its his fault.....
Mon at 2:46pm ·
Milosz Feigin
the war in afghanistan should also be ditched.....its obama's brain damaged vision that is expanding it..Afghanistan's best use is as a depository for cluster bombs
Mon at 2:47pm ·
Sherri Stoner
keep libraries...!
Mon at 3:16pm ·
Christopher Kent
Milosz, I comprehend what you are saying, but that's not the problem I'm addressing. What I am saying is in order to become an accountant, you need to already have the $ for college. If you don't have it, you can't be an accountant. It's not a question of whether or not the person has chosen wisely. The problem is too many people never even get the chance to go in the first place.
This parallels some of the things medieval society used to do, to keep the rich side rich, and the poor side poor. You need money to go to college > so you can get a good job > so you can make money.
This establishment reinforces itself through a feedback loop which in turn causes more economic instability.To illustrate my point, less than 1% of impoverished Americans ever get a college education. Conversely about 7% of wealthy Americans lose their fortunes every year (joining the poor side)....See More
This parallels some of the things medieval society used to do, to keep the rich side rich, and the poor side poor. You need money to go to college > so you can get a good job > so you can make money.
This establishment reinforces itself through a feedback loop which in turn causes more economic instability.To illustrate my point, less than 1% of impoverished Americans ever get a college education. Conversely about 7% of wealthy Americans lose their fortunes every year (joining the poor side)....See More
Mon at 3:49pm ·
Christopher Kent
I'd nominate the Electoral College as obselete by the way. If we can vote on the next American Idol, we are technologically capable of having a true Athenian Democracy.
No need for incompetant middle men who are just going to accept bribes and cave to special interest groups anyways. Since our so-called representitives refuse to represent us, I ...See More
No need for incompetant middle men who are just going to accept bribes and cave to special interest groups anyways. Since our so-called representitives refuse to represent us, I ...See More
Mon at 4:03pm ·
Alexis Luthor
Keep our libraries!
Mon at 4:15pm ·
Bill Winter
The U.S. Senate: Vestigial and unneeded. We don't need no House of Lords...
Mon at 4:27pm ·
Lindsey Hughes
Let's keep libraries and trains! And I'm not a big fan of the post office, but I like getting my magazines. So ditch everythiing else.
Mon at 4:43pm ·
Milosz Feigin
Christopher there are many roots to college for the poor....one is the army...another is federal loans...I also don't know where you get the 1% of poor people going to college....that number does not apply to poor asian immigrants but to black and hispanics...and in those cases its as much a cultural lack of ambition as it is money.....you can always find the money...you can't always find the ambition....I've been to chinese villages where they write with charcoal......its all about wanting it.
Mon at 5:06pm ·
Sherri Stoner
Dump Electoral College, SAT and ACT. Keep the post office because I keep hoping the handwritten letter will make a comeback. It went from letters to emails to texting to tweets. Correspondence is so disposable now. No more love letters tucked in shoe boxes or old letters your Grampa wrote you. Sad.
Mon at 5:36pm ·
Milosz Feigin
Chris....your other flawed statement is that you need to go to college to get a good job.....LAPD officers can make six figures easily by 25...with only a high school degree...in fact I can show you people I know who are very blue collar, very uneducated and very rich.....
Mon at 5:41pm ·
Alexis Luthor
Universities are ridiculously expensive. I also know tons of people who've tried, and can't. Myself included. Not everybody wants to join the army. Not everybody gets enough loan money to go. And if you're in class, that's less time spent at work. How do you pay the utilities? Then there's childcare. The list just goes on and on. Anyone who thinks ambition is all you need is horribly naive and misinformed.
Mon at 5:42pm ·
Christopher Kent
I googled the statistics. The people you are referring to are the 1%, they are not an indicator of the majority. And therefor are irrelevant to the discussion. As I already stated there are exceptions to the rule. But saying you know some "rich blue collar workers" would be like arguing that since you know some people who've survived getting struck by lightning, then lightning must be harmless.
Mon at 5:52pm ·
Sherri Stoner
In the LAUSD High Schools they have had to fire all the college counselors - Gov. Arnold's kids go to Brentwood High School. I think all elected officials should have to send their kids to public schools. Going though the college ap thing now - and there are A LOT of grants and scholarship programs that kids simply don't know about - along with ...See More
Mon at 6:02pm ·
Milosz Feigin
ambition drives success the italians that came to the U.S. at the turn of the century lived in cold water apartments, had no college counselors in schools, and still succeeded....its all about ambition...if ur culture does not possess ambition u will fail....college is good for some people, others can be successful without it.....my college ...See More
Mon at 6:06pm ·
Jason Seidner
Milosz,
GfK Roper conducted a random survey in 1994, and 78 percent of those who responded said they can not afford to send their kids to school. Those numbers then jumped another 21 percent between by 2004.
As college attendance becomes the rule rather than the exception, the burden is not surprisingly heaviest on lower-income families. "Parents with incomes below $40,000 were much more likely to say they couldn't afford college compared to those with higher incomes. The unsettling aspect of this poll is that in all likelihood, these parents' perceptions mirror reality," says Tamara Draut, author of "Strapped: Why America's 20- and 30-Somethings Can't Get Ahead." "College costs have soared with the average tuition at a public four-year university, increasing more than 35 percent in the last five years and having more than doubled in the last two decades, after adjusting for inflation." ...See More
GfK Roper conducted a random survey in 1994, and 78 percent of those who responded said they can not afford to send their kids to school. Those numbers then jumped another 21 percent between by 2004.
As college attendance becomes the rule rather than the exception, the burden is not surprisingly heaviest on lower-income families. "Parents with incomes below $40,000 were much more likely to say they couldn't afford college compared to those with higher incomes. The unsettling aspect of this poll is that in all likelihood, these parents' perceptions mirror reality," says Tamara Draut, author of "Strapped: Why America's 20- and 30-Somethings Can't Get Ahead." "College costs have soared with the average tuition at a public four-year university, increasing more than 35 percent in the last five years and having more than doubled in the last two decades, after adjusting for inflation." ...See More
Mon at 6:08pm ·
Milosz Feigin
you can't afford college then join the navy......you not only get universal healthcare for the rest of ur life, but alot of cash to go to school....not to mention job skills and training....one of the reasons why we have become a nation of drug addicts....is because we have become a nation of whiners....and pardon my french "pussies".....98% of ...See More
Mon at 6:11pm ·
Milosz Feigin
We have also increasingly become a nation of people who make excuses for why they are losers.....or why they cannot get ahead.......its bullshit and pathetic.
Mon at 6:12pm ·
Sherri Stoner
College cons. might well all be morons, but I think when it comes to public schools (especially in L.A.) it helped - lets call them "disadvantaged" kids find a way into higher education through scholarships... etc. Especially if say your parents are crack addicts or something nifty like that. It still takes ambition to want to do better than ...See More
Mon at 6:14pm ·
Milosz Feigin
and who says the world is perfect where everyone gets the same chance its not...what are people smoking....there is no equality....only communism had a forcefully created equality and that edned very poorly.
Mon at 6:20pm ·
Sherri Stoner
And I know from crack - I went to Inglewood High School. Yeeeaup. In da hood. Was I a Crip or a Blood? Well, I'll save that fer later. I used to have a t-shirt that said "viktum of LAUSD." narf.
Mon at 6:22pm ·
Milosz Feigin
the best way to erase poverty is to do what reagan did....cut welfare and government programs...More minorities joined the middle class in the 80's than any other decade.....Obama's 100 billion in food stamps printing won't help anyone.
Mon at 6:25pm ·
Sherri Stoner
How did we get from college to food stamps? who the? what the? Must be my education failing me. ;)
Keep the libraries. It's where all the homeless Vets sleep in Santa Monica.
Keep the libraries. It's where all the homeless Vets sleep in Santa Monica.
Mon at 6:32pm ·
Alexis Luthor
I'm a whining, loser/pussy who's bullshit is pathetic? At what point did name calling become appropriate? I suddenly feel less like participating in this discussion.
Mon at 8:03pm ·
Sherri Stoner
why you so angry Milosz? You're a white man in america... you're in the cat-bird seat. Be happy. Have some take out Chinese food and chill. ;0
Mon at 8:55pm ·
Colin Higgins
I like all that stuff--save for the IRS
Yesterday at 9:02am ·
Milosz Feigin
anger breeds change....in terms of the name calling....I'm not calling anyone on here names.....I am referring to the american state of mind which has become one of making excuses....being whiners...and cowards....excuses are a reason not to do anything with one self....
Yesterday at 9:34am ·
Bill Winter
Anger breeds a lot of things...usually like a petri dish breeds disease. C'mon Milosz, is that all there is? Be self reliant, pull your weight, quit whinning? Is your world really that simple?
Yesterday at 11:19am ·
Milosz Feigin
yes...its actually quite simple....
Yesterday at 11:23am ·
Steven Barnes
Nation states. As geopolitical entities, they'll be edging obsolescence within our children's lifetimes--they'll exist, but be about as meaningful as the difference between California and Oregon.
Yesterday at 11:26am ·
Sherri Stoner
as Granny used t say: "Anger without action leaves us bitter not better."
Back to the post office - I have a couple of pals serving in Afghanistan... and I communicate with them on FB... amazes me. When they are safely done with a mission I get immediate word. So cool.
Still miss letters though....See More
Back to the post office - I have a couple of pals serving in Afghanistan... and I communicate with them on FB... amazes me. When they are safely done with a mission I get immediate word. So cool.
Still miss letters though....See More
Yesterday at 2:12pm ·
Milosz Feigin
the granny quote is great...I will use it.
Yesterday at 2:23pm ·
Flint Dille
I can only imagine Granny Stoner.
5 minutes ago ·
Flint Dille
Wow.... Not sure
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